LATINO JOURNALIST
STILL LOOKING FOR HOME; JORGE RAMOS, NEWS ANCHOR FOR UNIVISION TELEVISION, WILL SIGN HIS
NEW BOOK IN WINSTON-SALEM ON SATURDAY.
Sandy Mazza Staff WriterWhen Jorge Ramos
does book signings for his recently released memoir, "No Borders: A Journalist's
Search for Home," his reception sometimes rivals that of a rock star.
People bring their children to see the Mexican immigrant
to the United States who started off in this country as a waiter and became anchorman for
one of the largest nightly newscasts in the country, the Spanish-language "Noticiero
Univision" or "Univision Television," which he has anchored for 18 years.
Ramos has traveled to more than 60 countries and has
covered five wars, including El Salvador, the Persian Gulf, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq.
He was there when the wall fell in Berlin and when the towers fell in New York. He has
interviewed world leaders, such as President George W. Bush and Subcomandante Marcos, the
leader of the Zapatista guerrillas in Mexico. When Fidel Castro tried to put his arm
around Ramos' shoulders, he refused it. President Bush gave Ramos his first interview in
office. He has received seven Emmy Awards and the Maria Moors Cabot Award for Excellence
in Journalism.
Ramos will be visiting Barnes & Noble in
Winston-Salem on Saturday. The event is sponsored by The Hispanic League of the Piedmont
Triad and Barnes & Noble.
Why are you coming to Winston-Salem?
The myth is that there are no Latin Americans in North
Carolina or Michigan or places like this. The truth is that Latino growth is being seen
everywhere. This is affecting everything, from the work force to mass media to books in
Spanish.
What kind of response do you get at signings?
There were about 3,000 people in Houston, 800 in
Sacramento. What's happening is that, since I'm a newscaster, people are seeing me at 6:30
Eastern time on TV, and at the signings, it's a first opportunity to see someone who has
been on the air for 20 years. I can get feedback, especially in North Carolina, where we
hardly visit.
This phenomenon of books in Spanish is taking the country
by surprise. Fifty million books in Spanish were sold last year. It's an interesting
characteristic of Latinos, despite the fact that many Latinos are assimilating very
rapidly: nine out of 10 Latinos still speak Spanish at home and read in Spanish. That's 30
million people, and they are pretty much in touch with their country of origin and still
identify themselves with their country of origin. If you ask someone who was born in Miami
her nationality, she might say Cuban. If you ask me, I'd say I'm Mexican.
What is your role as a Spanish-language journalist in the
U.S.?
I have two very specific roles: one, as a newscaster for
the fifth-largest network in the U.S. Noticiero Univision is bigger than CNN, MTV, Fox
News. We get much higher ratings than ESPN and Nickelodeon. I have to inform the community
and the Hispanic community on what's important for us and what's going on on a daily
basis.
My second role is as an immigrant and maybe as a role
model. I have a very simple message: If I made it, you can make it. I came as an immigrant
to this country in 1983.
My first job was as a waiter. People know this story. If
I was able to go from waiter to anchorman, then others can do exactly the same thing. When
people go and see me at the bookstore, some people bring their children and point at me.
They might be saying: "Look, he was an immigrant, and he succeeded in this
country." The U.S. gave me the opportunities that Mexico couldn't give me. I would've
been a very poor, frustrated journalist in Mexico.
Do you ever want to go back to Mexico to live?
I guess I think about it all the time. There's not a
single day I don't think about it. I have two children, and they were born in the U.S.
It's not only my problem. Many Latinos have this problem of identity. On my best days, I
think I'm from both countries. I can be from both and be very comfortable. Most Latinos
will tell you that. This is a dichotomy many Americans cannot understand.
What inspired you to leave Mexico for the U.S.?
I left Mexico for two reasons. The first was because of
censorship. My first report for a paper was censored because it criticized the president.
The second reason was that I wanted to travel all around the world and be a journalist, be
a witness to history. I knew if I stayed in Mexico, I wouldn't have economic opportunities
to do that. I've been to about 60 countries, interviewed presidents. It was a tough
choice.
Have you encountered censorship as a journalist in the
U.S.?
This is a country where we have complete freedom of
expression. I was concerned that after 9/11, that any questioning of the government could
be labeled anti-American and anti-patriotic. I was concerned that many journalists felt
pressure to align themselves with the Bush administration. I think many journalists self-
censored themselves because of social pressure. It's very different than Mexico, where
censorship came directly from the government to the network to the journalist. Even though
I cannot call it censorship here in the U.S., I felt pressure. I'm amazed to see how many
Democratic congressmen decided not to criticize Bush after 9/11, but now they are changing
their position. I think there's a shift now.
Is this country doing enough to help Hispanic immigrants?
I don't think so. I think much more has to be done in
this country. Most Latinos will tell you that they have experienced discrimination in this
country. One out of every three do not finish high school. Latinos live more under the
poverty level than any other group in this country. We're 13 percent of the population,
but we have no judge in the Supreme Court and only one governor: Bill Richardson in New
Mexico. We don't have the political representation that we deserve, and we lack many
leaders to represent us. We're behind in many social issues.
What do you believe should be the U.S.'s policy towards
the immigration of Latin Americans?
The U.S. needs comprehensive immigration reform. The
status quo cannot stand anymore because of many different reasons. The U.S. has been
unable to stop immigration from the border. I would support amnesty for around 10 million
undocumented immigrants living in this country. It is a shame that there are 10 million
people living in the shadows, despite the fact that they contribute billions of dollars to
the economy. Every day, 1,000 immigrants cross the border illegally or they overstay their
visas. Many die at the border.
If immigrants are not legal residents, they can be
exploited. Every single American takes advantage of the work of undocumented immigrants.
The fact is that we need immigrants to pay Social Security. The question is how to
legalize them. Latinos are so concerned about this issue because seven out of 10 Latinos
are either immigrants or sons or daughters of immigrants.
The first line of your book is: "I do not feel at
home. Never. Anywhere." How do you define "home" now?
Home is probably wherever I am, whenever I'm surrounded
by my son, daughter and my wife. But it is very difficult to feel at home in Mexico when I
go back since I haven't been there for the last 20 years. When I'm traveling in the U.S.,
sometimes I look around and say, "Maybe I'm not accepted as just another member of
this country." Sometimes I get the sense that I'm not completely accepted in either
country. My condition as an immigrant has helped me to understand enormously the condition
of immigrants to the U.S.
Considering the time limitations of television, how much
of the news are you able to cover?
I always say that whoever gets his or her news from TV
only is not well-informed. I think we need many sources of information to get what's going
on. Sometimes I feel very frustrated by time limitations on TV. We have only 22 minutes to
tell viewers what's going on. ... In our newscast, at least 50 percent comes from Latin
America. Our vision of the world is much wider than NBC or CBS. For us, international news
is sometimes local news, and we were covering international news even before it was
fashionable to do so after 9/ 11, and that's why our newscasts get better ratings than
other networks'. ...
That's due to two things. One is the growth of the
Spanish population, and the second is that we are providing news they can't get from any
other network. None of the networks will report today that the president is about to fall
in Bolivia [he resigned Oct. 17].
You have been in some very dangerous situations as a
journalist. What do you believe has been the most dangerous and how have you survived?
I think to go to Afghanistan was very stupid. The network
didn't want to send a correspondent to Afghanistan, and I decided to go on vacation and go
alone. At some point, one of the guerrilla members that was supposed to take care of me
told me he was a follower of Osama and pointed his gun at me. I told him, if you take care
of me, I'll take care of you. I gave him 15 one-dollar bills, and he thought it was a lot
of money. He'd never seen a dollar before. He let me go unharmed. That was the closest
I've been to being hurt or killed. It was not very intelligent of me to go alone.
You have seen so much destruction as a journalist -
dictatorships, the events of Sept. 11. How do you think this has influenced your world
view?
I've been fortunate enough to visit almost 60 countries,
to cover five wars. At the beginning, I had to detach myself emotionally from all these
events because otherwise it would have been impossible to cover all these events: Iraq,
the fall of the Berlin Wall, the arrival of democracy in Mexico. All these events leave an
emotional scar. I cannot tell those emotional experiences on TV, and that's why it's
important to write because books compensate for the lack of time and emotion on TV. |